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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Paula Mabee: /* Confirmed (alphabetically) */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;'''Workshop on the Relationship Ontology'''&lt;br /&gt;
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The [http://ncbo.us National Center for Biomedical Ontology] will host a two-day workshop focused on the relationship between terms (classes) in ontologies.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Guidelines and Goals == &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Our over-arching guiding principle is to keep the Relations Ontology biology driven. This means that any relations proposed must be kept:&lt;br /&gt;
** simple, with well-thought out definitions&lt;br /&gt;
** example-driven, that is an instance-level definition must exist (see RO paper)&lt;br /&gt;
** expressed in a clear, consistent symbol-free syntax&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* The goals of this workshop are to develop the content of the relationship ontology. By the end of the meeting we hope to complete all of the following:&lt;br /&gt;
** All outstanding items on the request tracking system are solved&lt;br /&gt;
** All relations in ro_proposed are &amp;quot;blessed&amp;quot; and move into RO proper&lt;br /&gt;
** A release of the cross-product (xp) files is generated&lt;br /&gt;
** We will produce a new release of the RO&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Preparation == &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* The leader of each session topic should be prepared to provide a summary of the issues involved and the available choices to be decided upon&lt;br /&gt;
* Leaders should recommend papers to read in preparation and send out PDFs for CS folks and biologistsd&lt;br /&gt;
* Nomi Harris and Chris Mungall are working to ensure that OBO-Edit2 will be fit to use during the workshop so that we can use it to immediately modify the RO&lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
== Agenda: 8:00AM-5:30PM Monday, May 19th 2008 ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== General (Barry/Chris) === &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* review of principles&lt;br /&gt;
** all-some(time) (Barry)&lt;br /&gt;
** desired level of granularity (Barry)&lt;br /&gt;
* review of website, tracker (Chris)&lt;br /&gt;
** process for adding terms&lt;br /&gt;
* review of current primary representation in .obo, .owl conversion (Chris)&lt;br /&gt;
* ID policy (BFO), ontology lifecycle issues etc&lt;br /&gt;
* cross-products&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Development and anatomy (DavidOS) ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* stages and temporal relations&lt;br /&gt;
** DavidOS/Fabian&lt;br /&gt;
** Interval calculus&lt;br /&gt;
** ZFA stages use case: start, end&lt;br /&gt;
* develops_from (Melissa)&lt;br /&gt;
* relations from CARO paper (Fabian)&lt;br /&gt;
* review biological_process_xp_cell (Chris/MikeB)&lt;br /&gt;
* replaced_by - endochondral bone replaces cartilege (Wasila)&lt;br /&gt;
* agent_in - is it valid? &amp;quot;heart process&amp;quot; example - DavidH/Chris&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Biological qualities and phenotypes (Chris) ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* lacks_part (Werner)&lt;br /&gt;
* inheres_in&lt;br /&gt;
** relational qualities&lt;br /&gt;
*** towards relation&lt;br /&gt;
*** relational qualities and relations - what's the difference. lacks_part example&lt;br /&gt;
* relations between qualities, comparisons and abnormality&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Spatial relations (Melissa/Suzi) ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* surrounded_by&lt;br /&gt;
* overlaps - bone + joint use case (Peter)&lt;br /&gt;
* connected_to - axon tracts and neuropil (fiat binary)&lt;br /&gt;
* attached_to - bone + bone use case (Wasila)&lt;br /&gt;
* RCC8 - can we just import directly?&lt;br /&gt;
* bona fide vs fiat - when does it matter&lt;br /&gt;
* spatial.obo (Wasila)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Regulation (David/Tanya/Chris) ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* regulates, +, -&lt;br /&gt;
* composition of regulation relations&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&amp;amp;aid=1888149&amp;amp;group_id=76834&amp;amp;atid=947684] [http://www.bioontology.org/wiki/index.php/RO:Main_Page#TAIR_Relations TAIR relations]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Agenda: 8:00AM-3:30PM Tuesday, May 20th 2008 ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Evolutionary (Melissa, Wasila, Peter) === &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* homologous_to &amp;amp; evo_derives_from&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Biochemical (Larry / Mike B) === &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* pathways (BioPAX-OBO, AlanR)&lt;br /&gt;
* review bp_xp_chebi (Bada)&lt;br /&gt;
* Molecular interactions and the PSI-MI relation(esque) terms. (Larry)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Epistemic (Larry) === &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* supported_by et al&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Logical/representation issues === &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* FOL representations of RO (Thom &amp;amp; Fabian)&lt;br /&gt;
* RO and BFO&lt;br /&gt;
* OBO and OWL issues (Alan, Chris, Nigam)&lt;br /&gt;
* instance vs type level; punning vs separate IDs&lt;br /&gt;
* the time issue. OWL representation (Alan)&lt;br /&gt;
* ternary relations in RO: DavidS's use case (DavidOS/Chris)&lt;br /&gt;
* Erick's list of meta-relations&lt;br /&gt;
* idiosyncratic relations in the FMA (Suzi/Nigam)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Logistics ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* This meeting will take place on the [http://www.uchsc.edu/anschutzmedicalcampus/ Anschutz medical Campus of the University of Colorado at Denver], probably in room 204 of the  [http://www.uchsc.edu/anschutzmedicalcampus/projects/nativehealth.htm Nighthorse Campbell building]. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Fly in to the [http://www.flydenver.com/ Denver International Airport].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* A good nearby hotel is the [http://www.druryhotels.com/properties/denvereast.cfm East Denver Drury Inn].  It's not walking distance, but it is the closest decent hotel and we will work to arrange carpools if necessary.  If you are driving yourself, you will need [http://ucdhsc.edu/admin/facilities/parking/docs/AMC-UCD-VisitorParking.pdf visitor parking information].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* If you need advice or want to talk to someone regarding logistics, email [mailto:Kathy.R.Thomas@uchsc.edu Kathy Thomas] and mention the Relation Ontology expert meeting in May.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Invited Participants ==&lt;br /&gt;
=== Confirmed (alphabetically) ===&lt;br /&gt;
# Mike Bada (host / Denver, CO)&lt;br /&gt;
# Tanya Berardini (TAIR / Stanford, CA)&lt;br /&gt;
# Bill Bug (BIRN / San Diego, CA)&lt;br /&gt;
# Vinay Chaudhri (SRI / Menlo Park, CA)&lt;br /&gt;
# Werner Ceusters (ORG / Buffalo, NY)&lt;br /&gt;
# Wasila Dahdul (Phenoscape/NESCENT)&lt;br /&gt;
# Mary Dolan (MGI / Bar Harbor, ME)&lt;br /&gt;
# Melissa Haendel (ZFIN / Eugene, OR)&lt;br /&gt;
# David Hill (MGI / Bar Harbor, ME)&lt;br /&gt;
# Larry Hunter (host / Denver, CO)&lt;br /&gt;
# Suzi Lewis (NCBO / Berkeley, CA)&lt;br /&gt;
# Peter Midford (Phenoscape/ NESCent)&lt;br /&gt;
# Chris Mungall (Flybase / Berkeley, CA)&lt;br /&gt;
# Darren Natale (PRO / Georgetown, Washington, DC)&lt;br /&gt;
# Fabian Neuhaus (NIST / Washington, DC)&lt;br /&gt;
# David Osumi-Sutherland (FlyBase / Cambridge, UK)&lt;br /&gt;
# Cornelius Rosse (FMA / Seattle, WA)&lt;br /&gt;
# Alan Ruttenberg (Science Commons / Cambridge, MA)&lt;br /&gt;
# Nigam Shah (NCBO / Stanford, CA)&lt;br /&gt;
# Barry Smith (NCBO / Buffalo, NY)&lt;br /&gt;
# Karin Verspoor (host / Denver, CO)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Invited ===&lt;br /&gt;
# Thomas Bittner (ORG / Buffalo, NY)&lt;br /&gt;
# Waclaw Kusnierczyk (Bergen, Norway)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Background Material ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[http://obofoundry.org/ro/ Relation Ontology Home ]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[RO:Main_Page | Current Proposals for new relations ]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://www.biomedcentral.com/content/pdf/1471-2105-7-S3-S5.pdf SMBM paper discussing the relations in the PASBio predicates]&lt;br /&gt;
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White paper  on the relations used in the AURA biology system [[media:AURA_relations.pdf]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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